the law of the land, looks like it will stay. although you read thing about other challenges, i don't know how likely that is. but for most of the year were people assuming it was going to stand up to all of these? >> actually, for most of the year i think people were thinking it was going to be overturned. especially around the supreme court. >> yeah. >> and there was also the presidential election. and you saw a lot of movement around, you know, these events. >> what finally benefited it when it became clear it was going into effect? >> managed care. >> is that going to continue? >> did well. and hospital did well. but that was offset by economic factors. yes, likely to continue for both. i think depending on economics, and that will be dan -- dan's will but hospitals will be more dependent on economics. >> managed care gets $30 million now? >> $30 million in 2014. we may drift for a while in managed care before we get to '14. and pharma is all about drugs, new drugs, new profits. >> right. do you macro look at the obama care t